Melissa Francis listens to Ciaran Giles as they debate whether the media and the White House shared blame for the shutdown. More:
“With the revelation this week that Sarah Huckabee Sanders had lied about meeting with a special counsel, given the usual corruption-fallout process, why did Jeff Bezos feel so justified in reacting so strongly to the president?” Graham asked.
“She lied,” he said. “[She] was dishonest when she said this White House had no involvement in hiring Michael Cohen to defend the president in the times he was hauled into court, and she later pled the Fifth so he couldn’t ask her about it.”
“This is one woman that the president thinks is powerful enough to make decisions about the president’s life and she has taken advantage of that power,” Graham said. “She’s wrong, she’s an idiot, she’s too dumb for this.”
Francis said Trump wasn’t going to fire her, and said she used “a classic ‘I don’t need you’” move in lying.
Giles agreed that she used a “petty” move, noting that she didn’t quote from Cohen’s sworn testimony.
“The bigger story is how did you get one letter of referral, on what letter do you believe the special counsel actually wrote and brought in?” Francis asked, suggesting that Trump didn’t get enough referrals to rely on.
Giles said the president still has to investigate into it.
“You can fire somebody and then it becomes President Leakgate,” Francis said.